Episode 14: As It Is, Patty & Ben

As It Is take time out of their hectic tour duties to discuss the positive influence of their 2017 sophomore album, Okay.

For episode 14, we chat to lyricists Patty Walters and Ben Langford-Biss about creating a safe space to talk about mental illness.

The duo open up on everything from their unique writing partnership to the influence of their closest family relationships and how they approach self-care while on tour.

Listen in below via Soundcloud or on iTunes.

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